Fact is : You do not know anything more then the rest of us. All the information you give is written in all newspapers of the world. You do not have any information at all that all the rest of us did not have. You have read that Biden said; "we will bring an aénd to it " , well this was written in all newspapers around the world. What th…
Fact is : You do not know anything more then the rest of us. All the information you give is written in all newspapers of the world. You do not have any information at all that all the rest of us did not have. You have read that Biden said; "we will bring an aénd to it " , well this was written in all newspapers around the world. What then happens that in your fantasy this means that this proves that the US has blown up the pipeline. In your fantasy the sentence by Biden is enough as a proof. You do not give any documentation or any other proof than this public sentence by Biden. Not very clever thinking. All the rest is just your own thinking. That the US wants to sell more gas to Europe, and therefore blew up the pipeline. Well, this is your assertion, but where is the proof for that? Where is the documentation? We only have your word for it, and you dont have any inside information or leaked documents or anything that can prove your ideas.
Now you are denying the value of open-source intelligence (osint) and obliterating the legal concept of reasonable doubt (rimelig tvivl) by demanding absolute proof backed by classified material. Perhaps a better use of your time would be to present a coherent case of reasonable doubt concerning US responsibility for the destruction of the pipeline?
If you truly believe the US did not blow up Nord Stream, please just state your case as for why you have come to this conclusion. Ideally you would propose an alternative suspect.
Personally I think there are only two viable suspects: the US and Russia. What I find very telling is that after at first trying to blame Russia, the West suddenly shut down this narrative and instead, over time, got around to blaming Ukraine. Why?
I dont see any reason to speculate about who did it. Like in every criminal case : Let the proof, evidence, documents or testimonies speak, and they will point out the guilty.
When Oluf Palme was murdered, the swedish government appointed Hans Holmer to be the chief investigator. He had a thinking exactly like you. He sad down and speculated : Who could have a motive for murdering Palme? He reached the conclusion, that it must be the kurdish organisation PKK, because Sweden had sold weapons to their enemy Turkey. So instead of collecting testimonies, searching at the crime scene and so on, he only followed this one track. After 10 month the government saw that Hans Holmer was doing a very bad job, and they dismissed him. But alas, too late. Police tried to do what they have to do on a crime scene: Search for witnesses, search for finger prints , and so on. But this was much too late. The result is that the killer of Palme never was found. So now all hobby detectives spend a lot of time theorizing about who could have murdered Palme. To what use? Some think it was South Africa, others think it was Russia, others even think it was CIA, because Palme was a socialist. Well, good luck. It is important to have a hobby, otherwise life is too boring.
From your comment, it seems there are three general approaches to whodunits: relying on government investigations, trusting amateur sleuths to do their own research, or embracing a benign nihilism of simply not caring. Naturally, these positions are not mutually exclusive.
The first whodunit in Western history was Sophocles’ Oedipus Rex, based on a myth already ancient in his time. In that case, a policy of benign nihilism would undoubtedly have served Oedipus better. Instead, he plunged headfirst into solving the mystery of who killed Laius, the former King of Thebes. This murder had left Thebes besieged by plagues, presumably because the city harboured the accursed assailant. By relentlessly pursuing the truth, Oedipus discovered he was the perpetrator, having unknowingly killed his father and married his mother. Ironically, had Oedipus chosen not to "do his own research," Thebes might have been annihilated by the miasma of his unspeakable sins.
The Olaf Palme assassination highlights how political pressures—or sheer public-sector incompetence—can quickly derail an investigation. It's easy to imagine the Swedish and Danish attempts to solve the Nord Stream sabotage were likely even more feeble.
Amateur investigations, meanwhile, often reflect the biases or preconceived notions of those involved. This is evident in the discourse surrounding the recent firestorm in Los Angeles, where many people seem to be "talking their book" rather than offering meaningful analysis of the disaster.
Having lived in Sweden for a few years after Palme’s assassination, I’ve heard many theories. While my certainty is low, I "like" the theory that Christer Pettersson was indeed the killer, but that it was a case of mistaken identity. The intended victim, in this version, was a rival gangster, but Pettersson—an alcoholic and hapless loser—shot the wrong man. I’m drawn to this theory because it carries a farcical element reminiscent of Graham Greene’s Our Man in Havana.
After being convicted, Pettersson was released by the neurotic Swedish justice system due to a lack of motive and murder weapon. Obviously Stockholm's geography provides plenty of watery hiding places in which to toss a gun and indeed there was no motive to kill Palme since it was a mistake.
The real question is: can Europe adopt an attitude of benign nihilism towards the Nord Stream attack and in doing so, continue to endure the current EU miasma of deindustrialization and eventual feudal control by the US? Or must act like Oedipus and seek the truth and let the chips fall where they may?
In your script you claim for certain that you know Biden and the CIA did it. Then I dont understand why you do not go to the police and tell them that you have important news in the North Stream case. You know who was behind it. Every citizen who has a knowledge in a crime case has an obligation to tell the police what they know, and to stand as a witness. In fact you can be punished by the law, if you deny information or refuse to witness. So if I where you I would immediately contact the police and tell them all that you know in this case.
Fact is : You do not know anything more then the rest of us. All the information you give is written in all newspapers of the world. You do not have any information at all that all the rest of us did not have. You have read that Biden said; "we will bring an aénd to it " , well this was written in all newspapers around the world. What then happens that in your fantasy this means that this proves that the US has blown up the pipeline. In your fantasy the sentence by Biden is enough as a proof. You do not give any documentation or any other proof than this public sentence by Biden. Not very clever thinking. All the rest is just your own thinking. That the US wants to sell more gas to Europe, and therefore blew up the pipeline. Well, this is your assertion, but where is the proof for that? Where is the documentation? We only have your word for it, and you dont have any inside information or leaked documents or anything that can prove your ideas.
Now you are denying the value of open-source intelligence (osint) and obliterating the legal concept of reasonable doubt (rimelig tvivl) by demanding absolute proof backed by classified material. Perhaps a better use of your time would be to present a coherent case of reasonable doubt concerning US responsibility for the destruction of the pipeline?
dont understand what you want me to do
If you truly believe the US did not blow up Nord Stream, please just state your case as for why you have come to this conclusion. Ideally you would propose an alternative suspect.
Personally I think there are only two viable suspects: the US and Russia. What I find very telling is that after at first trying to blame Russia, the West suddenly shut down this narrative and instead, over time, got around to blaming Ukraine. Why?
I dont see any reason to speculate about who did it. Like in every criminal case : Let the proof, evidence, documents or testimonies speak, and they will point out the guilty.
When Oluf Palme was murdered, the swedish government appointed Hans Holmer to be the chief investigator. He had a thinking exactly like you. He sad down and speculated : Who could have a motive for murdering Palme? He reached the conclusion, that it must be the kurdish organisation PKK, because Sweden had sold weapons to their enemy Turkey. So instead of collecting testimonies, searching at the crime scene and so on, he only followed this one track. After 10 month the government saw that Hans Holmer was doing a very bad job, and they dismissed him. But alas, too late. Police tried to do what they have to do on a crime scene: Search for witnesses, search for finger prints , and so on. But this was much too late. The result is that the killer of Palme never was found. So now all hobby detectives spend a lot of time theorizing about who could have murdered Palme. To what use? Some think it was South Africa, others think it was Russia, others even think it was CIA, because Palme was a socialist. Well, good luck. It is important to have a hobby, otherwise life is too boring.
From your comment, it seems there are three general approaches to whodunits: relying on government investigations, trusting amateur sleuths to do their own research, or embracing a benign nihilism of simply not caring. Naturally, these positions are not mutually exclusive.
The first whodunit in Western history was Sophocles’ Oedipus Rex, based on a myth already ancient in his time. In that case, a policy of benign nihilism would undoubtedly have served Oedipus better. Instead, he plunged headfirst into solving the mystery of who killed Laius, the former King of Thebes. This murder had left Thebes besieged by plagues, presumably because the city harboured the accursed assailant. By relentlessly pursuing the truth, Oedipus discovered he was the perpetrator, having unknowingly killed his father and married his mother. Ironically, had Oedipus chosen not to "do his own research," Thebes might have been annihilated by the miasma of his unspeakable sins.
The Olaf Palme assassination highlights how political pressures—or sheer public-sector incompetence—can quickly derail an investigation. It's easy to imagine the Swedish and Danish attempts to solve the Nord Stream sabotage were likely even more feeble.
Amateur investigations, meanwhile, often reflect the biases or preconceived notions of those involved. This is evident in the discourse surrounding the recent firestorm in Los Angeles, where many people seem to be "talking their book" rather than offering meaningful analysis of the disaster.
Having lived in Sweden for a few years after Palme’s assassination, I’ve heard many theories. While my certainty is low, I "like" the theory that Christer Pettersson was indeed the killer, but that it was a case of mistaken identity. The intended victim, in this version, was a rival gangster, but Pettersson—an alcoholic and hapless loser—shot the wrong man. I’m drawn to this theory because it carries a farcical element reminiscent of Graham Greene’s Our Man in Havana.
After being convicted, Pettersson was released by the neurotic Swedish justice system due to a lack of motive and murder weapon. Obviously Stockholm's geography provides plenty of watery hiding places in which to toss a gun and indeed there was no motive to kill Palme since it was a mistake.
The real question is: can Europe adopt an attitude of benign nihilism towards the Nord Stream attack and in doing so, continue to endure the current EU miasma of deindustrialization and eventual feudal control by the US? Or must act like Oedipus and seek the truth and let the chips fall where they may?
In your script you claim for certain that you know Biden and the CIA did it. Then I dont understand why you do not go to the police and tell them that you have important news in the North Stream case. You know who was behind it. Every citizen who has a knowledge in a crime case has an obligation to tell the police what they know, and to stand as a witness. In fact you can be punished by the law, if you deny information or refuse to witness. So if I where you I would immediately contact the police and tell them all that you know in this case.